I, too, was at the party, but I never did hook up with Graeme. I didn't
know
he was going to be there!
-Scott Zimmerman
Short Interviews from the Sarah 100 Party
August 28, 1995. Bristol, England. Aboard the Thekla.
by Peter and Graeme Evans. Secret Shine photo by Scott Zimmerman.
Me and Pete went down to the Sarah 100 gig. See a few bands, pay the
final respects. Half way through when Pete was drunk enough we got out
the tape recorder and done some interviews. We begin downstairs at the
Thekla.
PETE: Well, what do you think about Sarah stopping?
MATTHEW: Well, it's about time really.
P: Yeah, you think so?
M: Definitely. They've been crap for the last few year really.
That's
just my opinion. OK?
Next victim:
P: Excuse me. You've got a loveless T Shirt on, My Bloody
Valentine. What did you think about that band that were on ages
ago called something about shineless shine or
something
JIMMY: Secret Shine!
Yeah I thought they were rockin'. They were pretty cool.
P: They were a bit like My Bloody Valentine, do you not think?
J: They were, but that's no bad thing.
P: Yeah, that's what I think as well. Definitely.
Someone else:
P: Excuse me! What do you think about Sarah Records stopping?
DARWIN: Ah?
P: What do you think about Sarah Records stopping after 100
releases?
D: Well, I think it's kind of sad but kind of good because I'll
tell
you a story about George Sanders, yeah?
P: Go on then.
D: George Sanders, the actor in things like Rebecca, is the
original
Falcon before Tom Conway's brother took over. Well him and David Niven
were like young actors, when they were about 21. In the Moons
of Balloon David Niven tells this story about George Sanders and
George says "When I'm 65 I'm going to kill myself" and when George
Sanders got to 65 he did, and his reason was he was bored. So I think
that determining your end and then actually realising it is a very
good thing to do.
In the middle of the dance floor there is a guy with an internet
T-shirt.
P: Excuse me! My brother says you're an internet guy. What does
that
mean?
PETER THE GERMAN: This?
P: Yeah. You've got some indiepop at eskimo dot com
PG: It's a mailing list on the internet where people talk about
indiepop
P: Indiepop on the internet! What about it?
PG: All sort of indiepop. All kinds of bands what we like and we
review records and talk about..
P: So is it worthwhile?
PG: Yeah.
P: Yeah? You think so?
PG: Sure.
P: Where are you from?
PG: I'm German.
P: And you're here to see the end of Sarah Records?
PG: I am because I like Sarah for seven years so I had to be here.
Also there are plenty other people from the internet here I write to
every day.
P: Do you know Scott Zimmerman?
PG: Yeah. I don't know him personally but I know what he's doing
on
the internet.
P: Do you know where he is? He's here tonight.
PG: I don't know if he's here.
P: He is, he's supposed to be here.
PG: I haven't seen him here.
P: We were supposed to meet him but we don't know where he is. My
brother is like sort of on the internet and he's written to Scott
Zimmerman
before, and we're supposed to meet him here tonight but we cant find
him.
PG: I don't know him by sight. There are some Americans here.
There are
five or six Americans here, but i don't think anyone knows them.
Up the stairs.
P: Er, are you a transvestite then?
DEAN: No, I'm just a happy shopper.
P: A happy shopper.
D: A gorgeous sex symbol.
P: And what are you wearing at the moment?
GIRL: He is *gorgeous*.
D: Thankyou.
P: What are you wearing at the moment?
D: Just something I threw on this afternoon. A white fur coat.
Black
fishnets, and a PVC minidress.
P: Excellent. Well I'd ask you some more interesting questions but
I
can't think of any.
D: Ask me about pop music.
P: What about pop music, then?
D: I hate it.
P: You hate it. What do you like?
D: Gorgeous exciting things.
P: Like what?
D: Myself.
P: Yourself. What do you think about Sarah Records stopping after
100
releases?
D: It's 100 releases too much.
P: Well why the fuck are you here then?
D: I'm here to annoy people, to look gorgeous and exciting and
provocative.
P: Excellent.
D: And all the horrible indie kids who need to be shot. And
tortured
aggressively. And they need good taste in music which none of them
have here tonight.
P: Well what sort of bands do you like?
D: Sweet noisy punk rock bands who look good on stage and ..er..
are
good in bed. Name me one Sarah band who are good in bed.
P: Well I don't know any Sarah bands apart from
Heavenly.
D: Oh well they are wonderful in bed, probably.
P: But i'm sure...
D: Well the thing about Heavenly, let the truth be told, the
others
can go die horrible meaningless deaths because they're rubbish. But
Heavenly are wonderful. They're really pop music and sexy and
yeah.
Dean points us towards someone famous and popular.
P: Are you famous, or popular or something?
CLARE: Am I famous? Or popular? Nah!
P: You're not?
C: No.
P: C'mon you must be. You are.
C: A little bit.
P: You run a record label, C'mon.
C: Well I used to.
P: What was it called?
C: It was called Sarah but it's stopping tonight.
P: It was called called Sarah but it's stopping tonight!
Amazing!
C: So I'm not famous or popular any more.
P: You're not? Ah ah a a ahurgh!
C: And was on my way to the toilet. but i got sidetracked.
P: So what made you want to start a record label up?
C: To start one??? ... can't remember.
P: So what makes you want to stop it if you can't remeber why you
started it?
C: Well because I forgot why I started it so it's a damn good
reason
for stopping it, isn't it.
P: It is. Definitely. So what are you going to do..
C: I'm going to move to Paris.
P: You're going to move to Paris and do what? Be a bohemian?
C: Yeah. Get a garrett or loft. They have lofts in France, don't
they?
GUY: Gites.
C: Gites? No, no not in Paris.
P: They have sheets in Paris. They have sheets.
C: Sheets!
P: Sheets! I don't know what that means.
C: Well he said gites. They're more like holiday cottages so I
don't
think you get them in towns.
P: Well thank you very much. What's your name?
C: My name's Clare. What's your name?
P: Clare from Sarah Records. My name's Peter. From ... kerph..
Edinburgh.
C: You sound nice and Scottish.
P: I am Scottish.
P: Well thanks a lot.
C: It's a pleasure.
We go downstairs. I point out someone famous to Pete.
P: Who are you? My brother says you're famous but who are you?
PETER MOMTCHILOFF: Eh? I don't think famous is the exact word. I
play
in Heavenly.
P: You play in Heavenly! And what instrument do you play in
Heavenly?
PM: I play the guitar.
P: He plays the guitar! Excellent!
He looks at the tape recorder.
PM: It's not switched on.
P: It is, honestly.
PM: You nearly dropped it in the beer. That would have ruined
it.
P: So what made you want to form a pop band and play pop songs in
a
band for a living?
PM: Don't know It was such a long time ago.
P: Do you do it for a living? Or do you do it as a hobby?
PM: No. I've got a job.
P: You've got a job as well. What do you do like for a job?
PM: I work for a publisher.
P: A publishing firm? Sort of books and stuff?
PM: Yeah.
P: Well.. what... Penguin?
PM: Yeah.
P: Penguin!
PM: Oh, no I thought you said P**. No not Penguin.
P: No not Penguin. Sorry. Well some other pengu..
GRAEME: Ask him about Sarah records.
P: Sarah Records like ah..
PM: You're not going to be able to hear any of this.
P: No, I am. Well, shout into it. Sarah Records. What do you think
about Sarah Records, the guy from Heavenly says.
PM: Well they've always been very good to us. But it's time for
them
to call a halt and do something different.
P: So what are you going to do after this.
PM: We'll do something else.
P: Like start your own record label or sign to someone else?
Because
you're fucking the biggest label.. the biggest band on Heavenly records.
PM: The world is our oyster.
P: You're fucking right. Definitely. Excellent.
Downstairs looking for trouble.
P: Hey I met you earlier on and you like the Pastels.
CRAIG: Yeah.
P: And you like Sarah records. Why?
C: Well all the music is sort of nice and ...
P: What do you think about them stopping their label.
C: It was all a bit similar until a few years ago and then it all
got
a bit different. Boyracer changed it all.
P: Are you disappointed that they stopped.
C: Well, yeah
We hear David Gedge is in the area.
P: DAVID GEDGE WHERE ARE YOU YOU BASTARD???
P: Have you seen David Gedge about?
BLOKE: No
P: You've not. You have a Blur t-shirt on. Do you like Blur?
B: Yeah.
P: Why are you at Sarah Records last ever gig?
B: Just with a mate. A mate of mine got a free ticket and said
just
come along just to see Heavenly really. That's the only reason why I'm
here.
Back upstairs again.
P: Excuse me.
BLOKE IN THE CORNER ON HIS OWN: Piss off.
P: What do you think about Sarah Records stopping?
B: Just piss off please. PISS OFF.
P: Yeah? No c'mon, you must have some view about Sarah
Records?
B: No no no. No I haven't.
P: You haven't?
B: Take that away before I stick it up your arse.
P: Oh c'mon, you can't be that sort of uh inhibited.
B: Fuck off.
P: Please. C'mon just say something nice about Sarah Records or
why
you're here.
B: No.
P: Please.
B: No.
P: I'll buy you a drink.
B: No.
P: Aw.
Pete needs a piss.
P: What's you're name?
ANTOINE: Antoine from Nottingham.
P: Antoine. Doing a piss. But you have seen David Gedge?
A: I have seen David Gedge but it was pheurgh, must have been an
hour
ago now. He was off to the bar for a pint. And who are you?
P: I'm Peter from Edinburgh.
A: How you doing?
P: I'd shake your hand, but you know how it is.
A: It's all right, they're dry. I'm doing my best.
P: I would trust you but ... wahoo.. you know how it is in the
toilets.
On the landing.
P: Excuse me, are you Scottish?
SCOTS BLOKE: Aye.
P: What are you doing down in Bristol?
SB: In Bristol? Fuck knows.
P: What did you come and see Sarah Records last thing for?
SB: Oh aye, Sarah Records last eh ever gig sort of thing.
P: Ending their record label and stuff.
SB: Well record labels are what? Just another record label,
y'know. I
heard it's a buy-over. I heard Sony have come in for them and they've
sold out. That's what I've heard.
At the front, we go looking for Scott Zimmerman.
P: Excuse me. What do you think of Sarah Records stopping after
100
releases?
JB: What do we think of..
P: Yeah, stopping.
JB: It's very sad. It's the saddest day since the 8th of December
1980.
P: You what?
JB: It is the saddest day since the death of John Lennon.
P: So where are you from?
JB: France.
P: And you really like Sarah Records.
JB: Of course!
Still looking for Scott and Davie Gedge.
P: Excuse me. Have you seen David Gedge?
CHRIS: Yeah. He was over there but he's gone now. He might be
upstairs. He's got a white T-shirt on, but he's definitely here.
He looked gorgeous. Big and hairy and woah! Fantastic.
P: What do you think about Sarah Records stopping?
C: It's about time.
P: What are you doing here, then?
C: I've come to pay my final respects.
We go upstairs to look for David Gedge and find some people at a
table.
GRAEME: What was the first Sarah record you ever bought?
BLOKE: The Orchids. I've got a
habit.
P: Of what. Buying Orchids records or buying Sarah records?
B: That was a Sarah record. It was quite a while ago.
P: How many years ago was that?
B: About... seven years ago.
P: Seven years? Fucks sake! How long ago was Sarah Records started
then, cos I havent got a clue.
B: I think they started about 1987.
P: And what age are you now?
B: 27.
P: And you've been buying Sarah records for 7 years?
B: On and off, yeah.
P: And you still like them, because you've bought this record
Secret
Shine.
B: It was only a quid.
P: Yeah I bought it as well.
GRAEME: There's a guy over there with a Jesse Garron and the
Desperados T Shirt.
P: Are they from Edinburgh?
G: They are.
P: I'm from Edinburgh as well. Where are you from?
B: Originally from Dover, but I went to Bristol University so I
have a
bit of a soft spot for Sarah. I'm in Teesside at the moment.
David Gedge isn't here so we go back downstairs.
P: Can I record a conversation with you, by the way?
CLIVE: We're not really saying anything.
P: No well I'm looking for David Gedge and you look a bit like
him.
C: I'm actually called Clive Gedge.
P: WHAT? Is your name Clive? Oh NO! That's totally spoiled the
article. Anyway Clive, Clive Gedge, is that your actual name?
C: It's my nickname.
P: What is your second name?
C: Lamden.
P: Are you into Physics?
C: Actually yeah!
P: You are, physics, scientist?
C: No not really.
P: You do a PhD though? ho HO!
C: no, not a PhD.
P: Sorry I'm just talking crap. Clive. He's cool.
Then we bump into this girl we swapped fanzines with earlier.
Everyone
at the gig should have a copy of 'This August's Farewell
Kiss'.
P: What is your name?
HEATHER: Heather.
P: Heather. From where?
H: [giggles]
P: You're pished Heather, aren't you?
H: Not at all, no.
P: You are. She's pished and she's pretending she's not. She met
me at
the bar and she can't remember my name, I'm afraid.
H: I'm Heather. From Derbyshire.
P: Derbyshire. What team do you support then, Heather. Who's going
to
win the Premier Division?
H: Man City.
P: Man City? They're pish this year. They're going to be pish.
H: Don't be nasty.
P: Sarah Records. What about Sarah Records?
H: Oasis!
P: Aye Oasis are cool they beat Blur no they didnae but they
nearly.
You know everyone tries to act cool, and you're not. Everyone tries to
act sophisticated and you're not acting sophisticated, I'm afraid.
H: That's because I'm not.
P: Well everyone else tries to be. You might at least try.
H: Just listen.. just listen a minute will you. Please. All today
I've
had Krauts, Frogs, ...
P: Krauts and Frogs and you've eaten them all. I've had a Pizza.
Raymond! How you doing Raymond?
H: Rodney.
P: Raymond sounds better. You should change your name.
RODNEY: Roddie.
P: RODDIE!
R: I feel great!
P: Have you seen David Gedge, by the way?
R: Yeah.
P: You have? Where the fuck is he, then? I'm trying to record
him.
R: Red t-shirt. No white no red t-shirt.
Heather switches Petes tape recorder off because she realises we're
recording her in a moment of weakness. I notice this and switch it back
on.
P: C'mon. Heather's mum is Scottish. We will not say anything bad
about
her at all.
H: Och aye the noo.
P: Even though she hates us. Och aye the noo.
H: Och aye the noo.
P: She can say that really well.
R: She's properly half Scottish.
H: Och aye the nooooooo.
P: We're not going to take the crap out of her at all.
Heavenly start playing C is the Heavenly Option. coo-el. I stay and
listen, Pete hates Heavenly so he goes off to interview some more
people. Like Secret Shine.
P: You're in the band Secret Shine.
GIRL: Och Aye.
P: Och aye the now. So what do you think about Sarah records
stopping
after 100 releases?
G: Oh no. I'm the worst person to ask.
P: You are?
G: No comment. I fell into the band but it's been going a long
time on
Sarah so maybe.
P: Ask that boy there?
G: That boy there, Jamie.
P: Jamie, eh hey. What do you think about Sarah records stopping
after
100 releases? or so.
JAMIE: Eh, hang on can you stop it a second?
P: No I can't.
J: I've got to think of something.
DAVE: We think that doing a Take That cover is a much purer pop
art
statement, like doing a punk cover of a Take That song, than just
stopping a record label.
P: Aye, well said. Is he your manager?
G: Yeeeeah!
P: So he's not in the band, then.
G: Nooooooo.
P: No. Have you seen David Gedge?
G: Yeaaaaaaah!
P: You have? Where is he?
G: He's over there.
D: Hes in a white T Shirt.
G: Just by the sound people.
P: Oh cool, I'll go see him then.
The moment of destiny.
P: David Gedge, what do you think about Sarah Records stopping
after
100 releases?
DAVID GEDGE: It's a shame.
At the bar.
P: So you're the barmaid at the the Thekla in Bristol. What's your
name?
JOANNE: Joanne. What's this for?
P: It's for a fanzine. Joanne. She's quite nice looking. She's a
barmaid at the Thekla. So, em, Joanne, what do you think about Sarah
records splitting up or stopping in Bristol? Do you feel it's a shame
or
do you not give a shit basically because you're just a barmaid?
J: I really don't give a shit. I didn't even know.
P: You didnt even know! You didn't even know??? YOU DIDN'T EVEN
KNOW??????? That Sarah was stopping. So what sort of music are you into,
then?
J: Techno.
P: Techno? So what sort of bands?
J: Techno. It's not really bands. DJs
P: DJs. What DJs are you into?
J: Well there's a very good Bristol group of DJs called Electric
Orgasm.
P: Tricky. Tricky's from Bristol.
J: Yeah, and he's a bit of a prat.
P: Why do you not like twicky. Twicky? No sorry tricky.
J: He's a bit full of himself.
P: Yeah I suppose he is. 'Cos i've heard of him and i'm from
Edinburgh. So he must be full of himself if he's gone that far. So, You
like Techno DJs from Bristol. So what clubs do you go to in Bristol?
J: Well, I come down here sometimes.
P: You come down the Thekla even when you're not working?
J: Sometimes yeah, I get free drinks.
P: You get in for free because you're a barmaid or is it free all
the
time?
J: It's free because I'm a barmaid.
P: So you hate Heavenly then, who are playing at the moment?
J: No no, I've actually got one of Heavenly's songs.
P: Yeah? So you quite like them?
J: I was given it by someone from the Orchids.
P: Right. So you know the Orchids. You're friends with the
Orchids.
J: Well I stayed with them once in Glasgow.
P: You stayed with them. Did you sleep with them?
J: No I slept with a friend.
P: Ach you slept with a friend. That's OK.
J: And a very nice friend he was as well.
P: Yeah. So how manly was he?
J: He was quite a man.
P: He was quite a sort of.
J: He was lovely.
P: A lovely man of a man.
J: What did you say this was for?
P: It's for a hardcore like sex magazine. No it's for a
fanzine.
J: An indie fanzine.
P: Indie in the term alternative. Not a sort of Blur shit pop crap
Oasis.
J: I don't really like this kind of indie, it's a bit happy go
lucky.
P: Well alternative indie is quite good, commercial indie is shit
in
my view.
J: Yeah I like some indie but I don't like this.
P: I like some indie but I don't like this as well.
J: It's too sort of happy campers.
P: Yeah absolutely. Sarah Records is too full of twee effeminite
crap
if you ask me. But I shouldn't be saying that if I'm here. It's the last
ever Sarah records thing.
J: Is it?
P: It's the split up party.
J: It is not.
P: Is so.
J: Well why isn't it Sarah Records' leaving party then?
P: It is. It's Sarah Records stopping party. One hundred records
then
they split up. This is the party.
J: Oh ho. Well I guess it's a shame really.
P: It is. Well they've given so many crap bands a chance. I
suppose it
is a shame. So Joanne. So do you want to get off with me Joanne?
J: Do I want to get off with you? Ha ha ha ha ha.
P: Em. I better go back to see my brother who is quite a fan of
this
gig.
J: Bye.
P: Em I love you, honestly Joanne. I'll come back to Bristol
sometime
and marry you. Honestly.
J: Really.
It is 2am. Pete later narrowly avoided being beaten up by this
other
drunk guy. We bought lots of records and had a nice time. Now isn't this
the best article on Sarah Records you've ever read?
See also the Sarah 100 Party review.